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How to Preach to a Dacoit

There is only the sambandha, abhidheya and prayojana.  Some may misunderstand or not have a full understanding of it, so they only take it to a certain level. That’s why then any thought, any action can be improved. Because you can always take from it what the essence is; then based on that sambandha, abhidheya and prayojana take it to a higher level. This is very important for preaching. You understand this – you can preach. The more you understand it, the more you can preach, the less you understand it, the less you can preach. People are unable to get anything across to anybody because they don’t understand this at all, they take the externals.

Means, somebody is engaged in an activity, the guy is a dacoit and he is the head dacoit of all his gang. And in the neighborhood, they are making trouble. So now we start with this: you want to make this dacoit a devotee. What do you start with? If you don’t know what you are doing, ‘Oh, all you are doing is wrong, you go to hell!’ is that going to resonate with this dacoit? What might be resonating is his gun after he has pulled it out and shot you in the head. But other than that it might not be getting very far.

The point is, he wants to see authority being established. He wants to see proper etiquette established. He wants to see that from that following of that there is profit and result. Does that sound Vedic or not? Because by proper performance, proper understanding of your position, proper performance of your duties in relation to others’ position – that dharma gives artha. That’s why they are getting a result -because they are the head of the gang, the others respect him, follows his orders and instruction, because of that they are getting their results. Because what they are dealing with is very meager, the results are also meager. Or they may be great, but they are temporary. They got lots of money, but they lose it very quickly. Someone else shoots down and steals it, or they spend it because they don’t have any value for the money.

The point is, they are following the same principles that we are, but they don’t know that they are doing it and their detail of it, they are using it on such a low level, but it is still the same process, that’s why it works. There is nothing that works in this world that is not following the Vedic authority. Foolish persons try to claim that the Vedas don’t apply now, but these foolish persons are uninformed. The Vedas always apply. So the idea is to educate yourself so that you can actually see how the principles are always at work.

So now the point is, you are an authority but then the point is, there are bigger gangs than you, so there are bigger authorities, so you also have to be careful with them. So keep going, so then there is the one who why does all this work, why is it that my… Who made the principle that might is there, who created might? So that is God. So He is the Supreme authority. And this etiquette is there, and that works in here. But if you expand it that He is the Supreme authority, that means also that you have etiquette in your gang and between gangs, but there is also etiquette between those who are not in gangs. So they are also a group. Generally known as mushrooms… So there are considerations there so you can take it beyond that there is another consideration.

These people also want to follow their authorities, make their profit. Your gang wants to do, another gang, that is correct. But why not do in such a way that nobody is disturbed? So you can slowly slowly start to elevate. They are offering respect to you, you protect them. And slowly you can introduce all these different qualities and the connection with the Supreme Lord. So then you are able to elevate them. So then they can be someone who could manage within the society, protect the devotees, that are underseeing that Krsna’s interests are maintained and be very dynamic about it. And they would give up methods that would be inappropriate now for because the point is, those methods were detail. The principle is, you are trying to effect something, you are trying to get something done, you are trying to get a result so that all remains in place. But the person doesn’t lose any enthusiasm, he just redirects it and how he thinks so it is still the same principle, it is not something different.

(From Science of Inquiry Lecture, 17th Oct 2008, Bhaktivedanta Academy, Sridham Mayapur)

Transcription by Uddhava Priya Pr., used with permission

Minor adjustments made by website authors.

SB 7.1 The Supreme Lord Is Equal to Everyone

19th Sep 2016 Lecture 1
  •  First 6 cantos describe samanya-bhakti – what devotional service is and what it is not.

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SB 6.3 Yamaraja Instructs His Messengers

6th May 2016 Lecture 3
  • Yamaraja is death personified, and he does not get stopped by anyone.
  • The chanting of the Holy Name is not restricted.
  • No rule given in the Vedas ever get in the way of devotional service. They only get in the way if we think they have the same value as bhakti – we trip over our own low consciousness.

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SB 6.2 Ajamila Delivered by the Vishnudutas

Chapter 6 started 5th May 2016 Lecture 1
  • We should work on yama and niyama, not on rights.
  • Leadership may do the best they can, but even during Lord Caitanya’s time there were people like Ramacandra Puri – to show that we cannot please everybody.
  • We cannot satisfy anybody on the material platform – the material modes can turn things around too quickly.
  • Who are we to expect something from the devotees?

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BRIHAD MANU SIKSHA #27

  • Only because of punishment things function on the social platform. If there is no reaction, everyone would do whatever they wanted.
  • Generally, it is talked about education, encouragement etc, but actually punishment keeps things in line. If only encouragement is required, that is used. One who can be encouraged generally has some knowledge and qualities.
  • If things are not going to improve by discussion, there is punishment.
  • Liberal society trains people to think punishment is bad, but how do they deal with people who are not liberal?
  • Actually the confusion is when punishment is necessary; sometimes it is good, sometimes – bad.
  • Nowadays artists write all kinds of destructive lyrics, but government does not forbid it, ‘they should be allowed to express,’ but in that case selling cocaine to kids is also fine.
  • Encouragement is there when there is something to work with.
  • Nowadays absurd cases come up where criminals are protected and innocent people punished. Everything is based on sentiment.
  • Justice has to be applied by qualified people.
  • This section of Manu Samhita proves the absurdity of liberals and brings out the weaknesses of conservatives.
  • There must be standards and people must follow them.
  • Punishment means there is going to be reaction that we do not want.
  • Punishment may not be necessary if people are very well trained, but then one has to invest in the training.
  • Nowadays people only discuss their rights; Vedic system means that people focus on their obligations, so everyone’s rights are fulfilled
  • Obligation means that we have to perform some activity. Right means that we just sit and do nothing, and somebody else has to do something.
  • Properly inflicted punishment makes all people happy.
  • It is much easier to manage trained people.
  • There is no punishment in the spiritual world because everybody is a servant of God and does everything properly.
  • We are under the false impression that material world can be made nice and ideal.
  • Punishment is simply there, so that people do what is proper because when they properly perform their duties, everybody benefits.
  • We want to be so liberal and deny the importance of punishment, but what if demigods like Surya, Vayu etc gave up their duties that they also perform out of fear of punishment?
  • Taxes and punishment are not a problem, it is only a matter of the qualification of the governors.
  • In the Vedic system one can choose a specific set of duties (e.g. to get married or to renounce), but once the choice is made, one has to follow that set of duties.
  • Qualities of king who can administer punishment: truthful; acts after due consideration; wise; knows value of dharma, artha and kama; endowed with great energy; munificent; grateful; dedicated to the service of aged; humble; virtuous; born in a good family; pure; active; well-read in dharma-shastras; devoid of fault-finding; large-minded; free of vices like gambling; capable of hiding one’s shortcomings (otherwise, enemy can conquer the king on the basis of his weakness); well-versed in logic, politics, economics and the three Vedas.
  • To simply see weakness – that the leader has to be able to do, but to emphasize weakness is faultfinding.
  • King’s authorities know his weaknesses, but he is not supposed to show them to others. King’s authorities are also capable of keeping secrets.
  • King who is voluptuous, deceitful and partial is destroyed by the punishment he inflicts. Indian kings have a successful rule and then retire; in other places we see them destroyed.
  • ‘Absolute power corrupts absolutely’ is itself an absolute statement, and those who make it are themselves corrupt.
  • Punishment is not possible to administer by men with unimproved character – then it destroys all.
  • Chapters about king’s duties are really freaky for those who do not have knowledge and character.
  • There is no such thing as not having leadership and authority, it’s a question of their qualities. At the same time, the character of the followers is equally important to run a successful social system.
  • One who is not self-realized, or on the path of self-realization (unimproved mind) is not qualified to be a leader.
  • King is behaving without duplicity towards his friends (means, he has friends). He should act with justice in his domain, chastise enemy with vigour, and be lenient towards brahmanas.
  • Kings protects people through his actions.
  • The basic principles of running government are applied in various circumstances, but a king deals with the full government.
  • To actually be in charge is a big job – it means to practically personally get things done. One has character, one has energy, one has ability to deal constantly with various problematic situations. Even the Lord Himself personally comes to establish dharma. If one is not able to do this, one should not be a leader.
  • Actual management meetings should not be long, 10-20 minutes, because real managers want to do something practically.
  • Those who cannot deal with people should manage things.

The Protestant Approach

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PHILOSOPHICAL DEFINITIONS #4

PHILOSOPHICAL DEFINITIONS LECTURE #4, 23rd Sep 2008, Bhaktivedanta Academy, Sridham Mayapur

HH BVPS Maharaja: Continuing 5 levels of consciousness.

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MAN WOMAN INTERACTION LECTURE #14

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