MAN WOMAN INTERACTION LECTURE #3 Eger, Hungary https://usercontent.one/wp/bhaktividyapurnaswami.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/20070801_2_BVPS_Eger_Hungary.mp3 Can you express love...? If somebody is dealing, you are with someone right now, how do you express your love to them in the future or in the past? Can you do that? You are with them now, you have to express
Kali-rāja knows: you break down restriction, you break down relationships. You break down relationships, people can't work together. People can't work together, you cannot have saṅkīrtana.
It is true, we just chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, but what does that mean? How do we apply that as a conditioned soul? That we have to understand. We do chant, that is our main focus, yes. But since we are not satisfied with that, therefore there are other processes.
For Kṛṣṇa, spending time with the devotees - that is what is important. Just getting things done, He is already doing that as Paramātmā, and He is not with the devotees, that's why it is considered a lower level.