For Kṛṣṇa, spending time with the devotees - that is what is important. Just getting things done, He is already doing that as Paramātmā, and He is not with the devotees, that's why it is considered a lower level.

We are trying to find out what it is that you are interested in and why you are doing it. Because 'why' much of the time will establish what actually is the nature.

MAN WOMAN INTERACTION LECTURE #17 Eger, Hungary https://usercontent.one/wp/bhaktividyapurnaswami.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/20070807_3_BVPS_Eger_Hungary.mp3 HH BVPS Maharaja: So where were we? Who was asking the question? Oh, you were. Prabhu: I would like understand nature according to work.

MAN WOMAN INTERACTION LECTURE #13 Eger, Hungary https://usercontent.one/wp/bhaktividyapurnaswami.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/20070806_1_BVPS_Eger_Hungary.mp3 HH BVPS Maharaja: Some question? Mataji: I want to ask a question about trust and application in devotees. I'll be reading from the paper. How can you regain our trust and regain our desire to associate with devotees if sometimes in a