HH BVPS Maharaja: Any questions or comments? Yes.
Prabhu: Hare Krishna. Thank you, Maharaja. My question is that devotees, I see, usually they chant on counters…
HH BVPS Maharaja: They chant on counters. You said, devotees, usually can chant on counters? Nowadays?
Prabhu: So it is recommended, because…
HH BVPS Maharaja: It is recommended?
Prabhu: Yeah, I ‘m talking with devotees, they count their rounds on chanters, counters, so…
HH BVPS Maharaja: It says, chant constantly.
Prabhu: Yeah. So, sometimes they talk with devotees, and sometimes they chant a round on the counter. So is it proper way to chant in this way, could you clarify it?
HH BVPS Maharaja: Is it a proper way to chant? So the effect is actually… Means, the Holy Name is governed by whether you are using beads or whether you are using a clicker? The Lord is under the control of these items? Is that your point? Yes, that’s your point, okay. So, seeing that the Lord is independent, it doesn’t matter. Do you understand? The Lord, the Name has effect. Now, if you want to get full effect, you’ll actually try to focus on what you are chanting and try to remember the Lord. Does that make sense? So, it’s not about the counter, or the beads, it’s about absorption in Krishna. Does that make sense?
Now, the point is is, why beads over a counter? Because beads, then you are associating with Tulasi Devi, and she is one of the ones that can award Bhakti. So again, it’s about the person, it’s about Krishna and His Name, it’s about His devotees. You know, why be in the Dhama? Because the Dhama itself can give that, the dust from the Dhama, Govardhana, Yamuna, they can give love for Krishna. That’s why we associate with them, it’s not about the negative, it’s about the positive. Do you understand?
So, the question is a valid question, but you have to know what’s primary and what’s secondary. Because the Name isn’t controlled by that, but the point is is, why are we using them? That may indicate a mentality, that that itself may have some strength or weakness. Do you understand? But the Holy Name is not affected by whatever you chant on. I mean, devotees in the early days, they would get these red beads from some shopping place like that, they were just wood beads painted red, and devotees made those up. They weren’t Tulasi, but it’s just to make sure that you count. So that’s the natural… you’re not that… it’s the easiest, it’s simple. In other words, chanting on beads is simple, chanting on a clicker is complicated. Because the clicker needs a battery, it has these moving parts, it falls apart, you have to make sure you have one, you have to make sure it’s actually counting. [Laughter] You know what I am saying? While beads are pretty straightforward, so that’s why it’s recommended that you use beads.
But if situations are such, beads don’t work, but you want to still be chanting, then a clicker is great. Does that make sense? In other words, the idea would be, you do your rounds on your beads and extra rounds you do on your clicker. But there may be, you are riding on the bus to go to work, that’s the time you have to chant your rounds, beads may work, beads may not. If they work, great, use them, if they don’t, use a clicker. The point is, chant. You know what I am saying? The point is is, whatever you do, get at least 16 rounds done. But the point is is to constantly be chanting, does that make sense? So, whatever you have to do to always be chanting, do that, that’s the real thing. So it’s not about, “Oh, clickers are okay, ” or “Clickers are not okay,” it’s not about the clicker. It’s about our absorption in the chanting, and therefore beads give more assistance than clickers, because you have the extra effect of the association with Tulasi. You know what I am saying? But if that doesn’t work, then use the other. Does that make sense?
(From Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam 6.3.25, 25 January 2015, Sri Mayapur Dhama)